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Replacement Windows

Replacement Windows published on 15 Comments on Replacement Windows

Oy, we knew window replacements would be a pricey pain the arse, but we thought we would get away with 2 quotes tops and be on our way to setting up the next project.

The windows in our brownstone are those horrible 1980’s vinyl type. This winter felt like we left them wide open. They are DRAFT-TEE!

Ok, so here’s what we learned about historic-but-not-landmarked windows.

There are two ways to install new windows: Replacement or Brick to Brick. Now, replacement (which is what the vinyl are) would be dead easy and really inexpensive, but there’s no point replacing crap with crap.

Brick to brick is the way to go. Why? Because the installer takes out the entire frame and insulates the empty pockets where the window workings once were. Right now, that is what is creating the draft more than the actual windows. An added bonus is that the window will be a few inches larger and look much nicer. More window, less clad.

Fine. Unfortunately, our windows aren’t straight rectangles. They have a lovely eyebrow at the top. Yes, it’s lovely. But it also means we need custom windows if we want to go back to the original look. Which we do. They will be wood and they will cost anywhere from $2000-$5000 apiece depending on the window location (they vary in size) and who’s doing the quote. That is x 7 not including the rear windows.

The rear windows are pretty straightforward and there are no shutter pockets, so it looks like we can get away with replacements. Aluminum or fiberglass is better than vinyl. They can be made with a wood veneer interior to match the front windows.

And what about window manufacturers? Marvin is top of the line and pretty much one of the only companies we can use because of our silly-shaped historic windows.

Kolbe supposedly makes a nice product, not as expensive as Marvin. People seem to poo-poo Pella and Anderson. Pella has a more modern look to them anyway.

The window guy who’s coming to do a quote later today was talking about LePage Windows. The Canadian company does custom windows that are less expensive than Marvin. Website looks promising and I’m especially loving the French casement design (pictured above) that won’t work in a brownstone.

Finally, the installation matters as much as or more than the windows. You can have the finest quality window in the world. But it ain’t gonna keep you warm if it’s not tight in the frame.

So, there’s your Windows 101. More to follow when we actually buy and install said windows.

15 Comments

Always eager to read your blog. Love your discoveries. Envious of all the great discoveries and projects on your plate, but never of the costs involved. Still dreaming of the shoe bathtub.

Can’t wait to hear more about this window project.

Kelly, here’s something interesting. When I went to research Bonneville, I found out that the original Bonneville family was forced out of the company a few years ago and started Le Page. So Le Page IS Bonneville! But Bonneville is still Bonneville, only new owners.

What lumber yard on 4th?

Haha – it’s probably not there anymore….Modern Way.
4th and…Pacific? Dean?
LaPage is in Canada, right?
I used Bonneville windows for replacement back in 05/6 and at the time I was trying to save even more $ than Marvin and used their bottom of the line. Seemed like a good alternative, and they were…but in retrospect I should have compared the features more closely and probably used the top of the line instead, which if I remember correctly, would have still been cheaper than Marvin.
Better bounce it off Brownstoner…I’m sure someone has had a really bad experience, which is worth listening to I guess…

Yeah, I check into B’stoner a lot and I know you’ve been posting the window dilemma there, but I don’t remember seeing a review recently of the Bonneville/LePage windows. Back in 05/6 the salesman at Modern Way said they were flying off the shelf, very popular with a lot of the new construction in PS, so it might be a good time to ask how they’re performing….

LePage Mill work does not stand behind their products.

Please tell me about your experiance with LePage. Considering LePage and Marvin, prices are about the same. Hard time finding any reveiws on LePage

It’s been great. The only problem we had was that one of the locks wasn’t lining up. When we notified LePage the owner of the company (or one of the main guys at least) came to Bed Stuy himself to fix it.

I thought that LePage was less $ than Marvin. We were told that it’s the same quality but because LePage doesn’t put as much money into marketing, they are able to keep costs down and pass that along to the consumer. Perhaps that has changed.

I’d also recommend S&E Building Supply. They were the ones who turned us on to LePage.

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